Wednesday, 10 June 2009

Mobile Recording/DAW on a Netbook



I've been recording with Cubase for many years, whether it be in connection with bands I've played in or just home demos. In the mid-nineties i was programming MIDI backing tracks (keyboards and drums mainly) for my bands demo recordings using an Atari ST and recording the final audio tracks onto a 4-track cassette based system (complete with hiss) to sit alongside vocals, bass and guitar - much track bouncing was called for! In recent years PC's have become very powerful, very cheap and very capable of recording and playing back many tracks of digital audio.

My current main home-studio PC (an ageing Athlon XP2400 I think with 1.5GB RAM) running Cubase SL2 can play back many audio tracks, virtual instruments and runs many plugins with no problems. In my last originals band we recorded a full album on a similar spec machine running around 30 or so audio tracks (including 8 tracks for drums), virtual instruments (keyboards mainly) and many many plugins.

However, like many singers/songwriters/musicians, recording in a domestic environment can be a nuisance to neighbours, whether it be recording lead vocals or perhaps loud acoustic guitar strumming - electric guitar is not usually a problem for me because i use amp modelling (and hence can turn the volume down or use headphones) and like-wise for drums (which i program using samples) - recording a full acoustic drumkit or micing up an electric guitar amp at home certainly isn't an option for me!

Anyway, the idea of a portable/location recording setup/DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) using Cubase to record parts at rehearsal studios or fellow musicians houses (certainly lead vocals or loud acoustic guitar parts) to bring them back home and load onto my main home-studio PC has been a goal for a number of years. Even a nice two channel (stereo) recording of a drumkit in a rehearsal room (with me playing them - or perhaps a more capable drummer) and some well placed microphones would sound much better then any MIDI drum programming i'm capable of - you can't beat that human feel... Some years ago i recorded a practice session of my band in a rehearsal studio using just two overheads on drums and they sounded wonderful.

A technique worth investigating for recording drums with two mics is demonstrated here.

Another use for having such a portable setup would for example be popping round to a saxaphone players house and getting him/her to put a solo down on one of your tracks. So, that's where i'm coming from on this...

Now, before i begin i'm in no way suggesting here that a netbook is the best way to go about location recording your music, obviously a high spec laptop with an 8 input (or more) USB2 or firewire audio interface would be much better - but there are many people asking questions about netbooks and recording so if you need to do some location recordings yourself (rather then hiring a recording studio) using a very compact setup here's my report.


I bought an Asus Eee 904HA netbook recently for mobile internet etc.. and to be honest web browsing on the sofa without switching my main PC on but I was also intrigued as to whether or not it would be any good as a portable DAW for my own recordings.

I bought the Windows XP version (boo hiss i hear from the Linux crowd) - a 904HA with an Intel Atom 1.6GHz processor, 1 GB of RAM and a 170GB Hard drive (not a solid state drive like on some other models). Apparently the processor works out to be equivalent to a Celeron 900MHz and the hard-drive is only 5400 rpm - eek, perhaps not great for hard disk recording? Still, i gave it a bash, installed my (legitimate) copy of Cubase (with USB dongle) and hooked up my M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface to another one of it's USB ports (it has 3 in total).

To my surprise (and relief) it's very capable of multitrack recording. So far i've only recorded a few test tracks, all at 24bit 44.1KHz which is good enough for me. The timing (with the ASIO drivers) is rock solid, latency is 8ms and i've been able to record 1 or 2 tracks (a vocal and an acoustic guitar for example) whilst playing back others with no problems. The maximum number of tracks i've had playing back simultaneously is 8 (a kind of Queen style harmony vocal test dittie) and it coped no problems. This means that for a solo singer songwriter (acoustic guitar and vocals for example)putting down whole songs would be no problems and certainly location recording lead and backing vocals (or other instruments) to an already recorded backing track (perhaps mixed down if the song comprised of many tracks) would be no problems too - cracking !

I haven't experimented with any mixing but i suspect that once i load a few plugins the system would start having CPU issues but this isn't what i'm attempting to do, location recording is my goal.

Anyway, I'll continue mucking around and report back on my experiences.... in the meantime here are some more photos of my Asus Eee/Fast Track Pro portable DAW setup.






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5 Comments:

Anonymous 6 string mercenary said...

thanks for giving a write up on your experimental-sperience so far with the netbook daw. i'm in a similar mindset for using my line6 toneport kb37 and gearbox with some lite program in XP (or maybe Win7 if the drivers play nice) to record on the go. dang kb37 even has phantom power and is a pre-amp out, so in the same fashion i'm looking to offload the audio work to the external device and still enjoy low dang latency.

you got a source for that 900mhz equivalent statement? i'm just curious because i read somewhere the dual core atoms are expected in december of this year. ever thought about running a beta program with some musicians and dell or something to get us folks a few 4GB loaded netbooks to go with our chosen weapons? something that could run traktor scratch & power a usb hub with some korg nanos and maybe other stuff. be cool if the folks who make ableton tinker with a netbook variant.

the hell do i know. i play guitar and a recovering tech junkie. good to know the netbook can at least hold its own in current form (1.6 + 1 gb + HDD + XP + external audio) for recording guitar. i just got a 3rd hand hagstrom archtop with 1 floating humbucker and i want to take that sonofa gun out and record in random places here in tejas. sort of like how i borrowed, cleaned & restrung a friend's neglected acoustic on a visit to nyc, tossed it in the gig bag, snagged my creative zen 4GB mp3 player with a mic, got on the subway and went into central park to jam out and capture a few ideas in the works. i'm not sure if there's a list somewhere, but i wanted to be on the "has recorded guitar tracks in central park" list for the hell of it.

sure would've come out better with a nice condenser mic on a tripod running through an mbox or whatever and into a netbook.

keep up the good work & cheers

11 July 2009 23:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can confirm that ASUS EEEPC 1000H is also useable as a DAW with Cakewalk UA 1-g interface and the enclosed Sonar 6LE software. A lot quieter than a laptop, especially with the eeectl application which lets you adjust fan speed (30% is good).

28 August 2009 15:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just bought myself an Asus eeePC 904HD, waiting to load it up with my copy of Sonar 6 and Cubase SX3. Should be pretty sweet like.

25 December 2009 10:38  
Blogger Waylon said...

I'd be really interested to see if a net book could handle recording 4 or more analog inputs at once.

8 January 2010 05:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys should really checkout energyXT and Reaper

8 February 2010 22:01  

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